Comments on: Innocent until proven guilty. http://www.icanonlybe.me/innocent-until-proven-guilty/ {I Can Only Be.Me} Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:57:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: hope http://www.icanonlybe.me/innocent-until-proven-guilty/comment-page-2/#comment-17004 hope Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:17:33 +0000 http://immoralmatriarch.com/?p=1598#comment-17004 Patrick pls research the facts on both the cases if you have the time, im confidant you will see things differently. (wikipedia) A very unbiased account of the true facts.. Patrick pls research the facts on both the cases if you have the time, im confidant you will see things differently. (wikipedia) A very unbiased account of the true facts..

]]> By: princess http://www.icanonlybe.me/innocent-until-proven-guilty/comment-page-2/#comment-17002 princess Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:09:15 +0000 http://immoralmatriarch.com/?p=1598#comment-17002 the Doctors that accessed MJ all states that he does not fit the profile of a molester, furthermore molesters are not usually choosy with who they molest MJ had many children around him, even after placing an advert for victims to come forward there were none apart from children whose parents had grievance with MJ. These people were all proven to be convicted lairs and/or thief's. No parent would seek the advice of an attorney, over the police having seen their kid being fondled by a man. MJ is innocent.. the Doctors that accessed MJ all states that he does not fit the profile of a molester, furthermore molesters are not usually choosy with who they molest MJ had many children around him, even after placing an advert for victims to come forward there were none apart from children whose parents had grievance with MJ. These people were all proven to be convicted lairs and/or thief’s. No parent would seek the advice of an attorney, over the police having seen their kid being fondled by a man. MJ is innocent..

]]> By: hope http://www.icanonlybe.me/innocent-until-proven-guilty/comment-page-2/#comment-17001 hope Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:58:30 +0000 http://immoralmatriarch.com/?p=1598#comment-17001 well said, i for one took some time to research and i believe that MJ was innocent of all charges against him, well said, i for one took some time to research and i believe that MJ was innocent of all charges against him,

]]> By: IllegitimateAngel http://www.icanonlybe.me/innocent-until-proven-guilty/comment-page-2/#comment-12872 IllegitimateAngel Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:11:01 +0000 http://immoralmatriarch.com/?p=1598#comment-12872 I have been banned from responded to people's comments on here, but I couldn't let this one go (I guess you'll have to delete me, M. sorry.). I just want to clarify facts: it is NOT a fact that victims of child abuse (sexual or otherwise) are always or even usually averse to spending time with their abuser. That sounds logical to an adult, especially one who has not been abused, but it's simply not fact. the FACT of the matter is that pedophiles are notoriously expert at endearing themselves to their victims and convincing them that they are not even victims at all. they most often choose victims who are already neglected or abused. the purpose for this is two fold: these children are more hungry for attention from an adult and they are less likely to be believed (by people like yourself, who think that their desire to hold on to the only person whom they believe cares about them, indicates that they are liars.). the psychological factors that expose and keep people (children and adults) in abusive relationships are not "logical"; a layperson may not be able to see the "reason" to a victim's behavior, but that does not mean that the abuse did not occur. Now, whether or not MJ was a pedophile is all merely a matter of speculation and that is all it will ever be. you are welcome to your opinion on the matter, as are we all. however, to include such statements as fact that perpetuate stereotypes that damage victims........is deplorable. in your zeal to defend one man, your misinformation shames and silences other victims.........and that is something I cannot abide by. I could go on about the topic until I bore you to tears, if I haven't already. but I'll just say that I can't imagine that you are a person who seeks to harm victims of child abuse. that being said, please think about the things that you put out there and reinforce, because fallacies like that DO harm sexual abuse victims. for more info on myths: http://www.childvictimsvoicemaryland.org/Facts_and_Myths.html http://www.forgetaboutdiets.com/trauma/sexualabusemythsandfacts.htm and if you're feeling like seeking a little more knowledge on this myth in particular, you could read some journals: http://www.kidsindistress.org.au/files/The%20Child%20Sexual%20Abuse%20Accomodation%20Syndrome.pdf peace :) I have been banned from responded to people’s comments on here, but I couldn’t let this one go (I guess you’ll have to delete me, M. sorry.). I just want to clarify facts: it is NOT a fact that victims of child abuse (sexual or otherwise) are always or even usually averse to spending time with their abuser. That sounds logical to an adult, especially one who has not been abused, but it’s simply not fact. the FACT of the matter is that pedophiles are notoriously expert at endearing themselves to their victims and convincing them that they are not even victims at all. they most often choose victims who are already neglected or abused. the purpose for this is two fold: these children are more hungry for attention from an adult and they are less likely to be believed (by people like yourself, who think that their desire to hold on to the only person whom they believe cares about them, indicates that they are liars.). the psychological factors that expose and keep people (children and adults) in abusive relationships are not “logical”; a layperson may not be able to see the “reason” to a victim’s behavior, but that does not mean that the abuse did not occur.
Now, whether or not MJ was a pedophile is all merely a matter of speculation and that is all it will ever be. you are welcome to your opinion on the matter, as are we all. however, to include such statements as fact that perpetuate stereotypes that damage victims……..is deplorable. in your zeal to defend one man, your misinformation shames and silences other victims………and that is something I cannot abide by. I could go on about the topic until I bore you to tears, if I haven’t already. but I’ll just say that I can’t imagine that you are a person who seeks to harm victims of child abuse. that being said, please think about the things that you put out there and reinforce, because fallacies like that DO harm sexual abuse victims.

for more info on myths:
http://www.childvictimsvoicemaryland.org/Facts_and_Myths.html

http://www.forgetaboutdiets.com/trauma/sexualabusemythsandfacts.htm

and if you’re feeling like seeking a little more knowledge on this myth in particular, you could read some journals:
http://www.kidsindistress.org.au/files/The%20Child%20Sexual%20Abuse%20Accomodation%20Syndrome.pdf

peace :)

]]> By: Mary http://www.icanonlybe.me/innocent-until-proven-guilty/comment-page-2/#comment-12871 Mary Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:11:38 +0000 http://immoralmatriarch.com/?p=1598#comment-12871 I couldn't agree more! I was totally turned off by him when he was arrested the second time. But since his death I have spent days/hours reading books and researching on the internet regarding his life and the details of the 2 court cases and feel he was innocent. Why did these boys continue to be eager to stay with him and spend time with him? Victims of pedophiles do not look forward to spending time with their offenders and these kids were more than eager to be around him. Also, the details regarding Jackson's genitalia that were described by the accused were incorrect upon examination by authorities. The accuser stated Jackson was circumcised when in actually he was not. There was a taped conversation b/w the father, Jackson, and his attorney in which the father demands money when he first confronts Jackson about his suspicions. Why not Just go to the authorities? The father was in the midst of a custody battle and owed more than 70,000 in back child support. This is just to say that I truly believe he is/was innocent and I hope the accusers are feeling the intense guilt of ruining a good man's life for money. RIP Michael! I couldn’t agree more! I was totally turned off by him when he was arrested the second time. But since his death I have spent days/hours reading books and researching on the internet regarding his life and the details of the 2 court cases and feel he was innocent. Why did these boys continue to be eager to stay with him and spend time with him? Victims of pedophiles do not look forward to spending time with their offenders and these kids were more than eager to be around him. Also, the details regarding Jackson’s genitalia that were described by the accused were incorrect upon examination by authorities. The accuser stated Jackson was circumcised when in actually he was not. There was a taped conversation b/w the father, Jackson, and his attorney in which the father demands money when he first confronts Jackson about his suspicions. Why not Just go to the authorities? The father was in the midst of a custody battle and owed more than 70,000 in back child support.

This is just to say that I truly believe he is/was innocent and I hope the accusers are feeling the intense guilt of ruining a good man’s life for money.

RIP Michael!

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